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113. Rule Scenarios – Foul and a miss.
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On the first situation I always thought that the player had to be able to touch the 2 edges of the ball as with the rule of the free ball, I was wrong.
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Thanks a lot for your always insightful videos.
Here's a situation that wasn't clear at the club. A red ball is potted and the white runs in the pack. As a result, the player is snookered on all colors. Player nominates the black and doesn't touch it. Miss is called and balls are replaced. The player nominates the black again but this time he pots it in the center. Now, there were 2 interpretations and the conclusion wasn't clear.
Interpretation 1 : no foul, the black is respotted and the non-player takes his turn
Interpretation 2 : the black was the ball on, and since the snookered player potted it, he makes 7 pts and carries on playing.
Checking the rule book, I couldn't figure out which interpretation was right, even if to me it doesn't seem to make sense to score points after a miss. What would the rule be in that situation?
Can I call other ball after one time reset already??
I've always played the miss rule the way my father taught me. You must make a genuine effort to play the object ball. If snookered and your shot stops a quarter inch short or you miss by the classic baw hair as we say in Scotland then your opponent can play where it lies or let you play where it lies. Only if you are genuinely trying to gain an advantage from missing then it can be replaced.
Lovely information. However I may have missed it but I have a scenario question. Let's say I am 45 behind with just the last 3 colours left. If I put my opponent in a snooker and he misses can I have the balls replaced and make him go again up to a point where there are enough points left on the table that I can then win. So ask him to replay the shot 6 times, assuming he misses, then I would only be 15 behind so I can now win by potting the last 3. Or do I have to get him in 6 separate snookers ?
What if you miss on purpose on your 3rd attempt and snooker your opponent on purpose?
Could of touched the black knowing he wouldn't have to play the shot and Higgins wouldn't pot, so he got to come back to the table in a better position. Unfortunately I've seen Ronnie behaving badly too often not to suspect bad behaviour, honestly most of the time, if he thinks he can get away with it he doesn't own up. It's a shame the professional body keeps showing him favouritism, despite his inconsistencies (which Ronnie's gonna turn up today?), or being beyond insulting to the Chinese, or arguing with refs, or blaming everyone else or his cue when he plays bad, or not owning up to blatant fouls.
I would like a video clarifying what isn't a push shot in English billiards and is it the same as snooker?
I still can't get my head round why the miss rule does not apply when a player requires a snooker. The rule should be a miss is a miss whenever. It could be well in the interest of the player who does not require a snooker to miss a ball so as not to leave a free ball.
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Clearly there's a lot more i need to learn. Thanks for the "heads up".
If you believe that the foul and miss rule should be removed from the game of snooker please give this comment a thumbs up.
Pink and black is only balls on the table, am 7 points behind and i got snookered. Next I dnt hit the ball on, will it be consider as foul only or foul+miss?
The foul and miss rule should be put in the rubbish bin where it belongs, whoever thought up this stupid rule shouldn't be in a position to frame rules.
It can't be applied to any game that doesn't have a referee, there are ample penalties for any foul shot without making the game so complicated. Besides the penalty points gained a player can make his opponent play again if he feels disadvantaged by the foul, or if the foul shot results in a snooker another ball can be chosen to represent the ball in play.
This is enough without taking all the enjoyment out of the game with this stupid foul and miss rule that most players don't understand.
Imagine I am 7 points ahead with just the black on the table, and I miss a pot on the black and end up putting the cue ball awarding my opponent 7 points. Would this be a respotted black ??
Hi Barry
I was watching Higgins and Robertson Sunday's final. Higgins had to play the green on the cushion. He failed to hit it, a foul and 4 points were awarded to Robertson. Now he could see the all of the green on but no miss was awarded. I rewound the shot and there was no snooker needed on or after the shot. Why no miss and indeed if repeated 2 more times, loss of a frame. What do you think, Sir. Thanks in advance.
Hello in snooker can you hit the cue ball into a red and that red hits another red in.
I am always out of my dephts,when the miss-rule is on.Some referees let play through,others don't.Or do certain decisions depend on the referee? I really need some explanation,otherwise I can't make sense of it. Somebody here??????
According to the Official World Rules Revised; November 2019
Under Section 3, Rule #14 Foul and a miss
(e) After all balls have been replaced under this Rule, and the striker fouls any ball, including the cue-ball, a MISS will not be called if a stroke has not been played. In this case the appropriate penalty will be imposed. The non-offender may then elect to play themselves from the position left, or request the offender to play again from the position left or the original position, in which latter case all balls shall be replaced and the ball on shall be the same as it was prior to the last stroke made, namely:
(i) any Red, where Red was the ball on;
(ii) the colour on, where all Reds were off the table; or
(iii) a colour of the striker’s choice, where the ball on was a colour after a Red, or a free ball nominated as a Red had been potted.
Dear Barry , Do you know that is there any secret behind the color balls? why yellow has 2 points and why brown is located in the middle of D area?
I was snooker behind the yellow and I was attempting to hit one of the reds on the table. As I hit the cue ball, my cue touched the yellow and the Cue ball subsequently touched the pink. How many points should be deducted?
I've watched Snooker on itv4, and on Sunday last week, I've seen the Foul and miss being played several times in a row because of the limited view…..
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Thank you, Mr Stark. I am just watching your wonderful game for the 1st time, and saw a player shoot the same shot 6 times….wow, was I confused! I read it in the rules, but you explaining it made it much better.
Your an inspirational snooker teacher Barry you always teach people and the children how it’s done
Hello Mr. Barry, can you make video regarding upto when we can take foul & miss or free ball. Does it matter what's points left on the table or what?
HI Mr. Barry. Kindly guide me in the situation when player A have score lead by 9 points on player B. Only pink & black left on the table. Player A commit a foul by hit a straight shot on pink but pot the cue ball. The referee can give it like foul or he can give it like foul & a miss?
Am I correct in the following circumstances?
Black is on and player 1 illegally strikes yellow first: Opponent awarded 7 points because black was on
Yellow is on and player 1 illegally strikes black first: Opponent awarded 7 points because black was struck
Need to know
For example player 1 score is 50
Player 2 score 44 and only black ball is on table
Player 1 gives foul and now score is 50/51
Frame is over or they keep playing????
Send a link please if possible thanks Barry
sir i wish to ask some queries about rules, i am new in learning about snooker. so after we have taken all the red balls, we are suppose to start taking the yellow, green , brown , blue, pink and finally black. but i was watching some matches and the player takes the last red, and instead of taking the yellow , he takes lets say blue and gets the 5points but the blue is kept back on the board and then he takes the yellow
does anyone know the rule if two reds (or more) are pocketed on the same shot? Is that a foul? If it is a foul how is it scored? Or, do both reds stay down and if so is the player awarded 1 point for each pocketed red in that scenario?
This happened in my game a few weeks ago. While playing a red into a corner pocket the player pocketed his intended red and caromed the white into the pack. One additional red came out of the pack and was pocketed on that one shot – 2 reds pocketed on a single shot.
So does the "extra" red stay down and is the player awarded 2 points for that shot? Or does that extra red get placed back up on the table? If the extra red is put back on the table where on the table would it be placed?
Hello Sir Barry Stark. I'm from Malaysia. I have a question to ask. How about a player got a touching ball between green and pink. Does the player have to tell the referee if he wants to hit the green ball? What if he wants to hit the green ball but does not tell the referee to hit the green ball and when he hits the cue ball, the cue ball hits the pink first. Is the foul counted 4 or 6? Hope I can get the answer. Thank you.
why do referees always give a miss, even when the distance is only CMs?
What would happen if, when a player is 33 behind with 35 on the table and placed in a snooker. Is there anything to stop them rolling up behind a colour, placing the opponent in a snooker? Not sportsmanlike but would that be legal?
2 things you didnt talk about are the rare occasion where a snooker is so difficult the referee may choose to not call a miss even if the ball is missed. The other one is litterally where escape from a snooker is impossible, for instance if the cueball is completely surrounded by reds and the ball on is the yellow with no gap out of the reds. On this occasion the rule is that the player is allowed to purposely foul (as they have no choice) if they play in the direction of the on ball with enough power to hit it imagining that the obstructing balls were not there. A foul will be called still, but not a miss. Both scenarios are rareespecially the latter but both have happened before